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Bill Murphy Jr.'s avatar

I'm turning off the comments. Thanks everyone. Please let's try to be civil with each other. Thank you.

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Dan's avatar

Bill, wish you were half as alarmist about millions of illegals crossing the border during the Biden administration as you seem to be about DOGE

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Darrell's avatar

I don’t think any of the “illegals crossing the border” have unfettered access to the national checkbook, our computerized payment systems or our personal information, not to mention highly classified systems.

“Republicans, who strenuously protested when a Black guy they claimed was born in Africa was spending their tax dollars, are strangely silent now that a white guy who was definitely born in Africa is doing it.”

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Dan's avatar

These two issues - illegals and wasteful and fraudulent spending - are totally unrelated and conflating them makes no sense. Then to bring race into the discussion - which the libs frequently do - is totally unfounded and inflammatory.

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Darrell's avatar

Facts are facts; you are the one that brought race into the discussion. Nice “dodge.” Of course they are unrelated but that did not seem to matter to you in your initial comment. So is Greenland, the Panama Canal, Canada and Gaza, not to mention the new raft of unemployed people coming.

What makes no sense is the aggregate overarching composite of all the chaos fomented in the past two weeks and is completely unfounded and inflammatory.

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SPW's avatar

Well you brought it up Dan.

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Dan's avatar

Please enlighten me. Where exactly did I bring up race!

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Darrell's avatar

“Then to bring race into the discussion…”

Feel enlightened? You might read your own comments before adding snark.

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Joe McGraw's avatar

Darrell, I seem to have missed the part where the “white guy from Africa” is spending tax dollars.

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Darrell's avatar

Then - like many people - you haven’t been paying attention. DOGE has a budget. That’s how musk is paying his boys salary and expenses. Nothing is free.

“Despite fabricating the United States DOGE Service out of thin air, President Musk has already grown his unelected bureaucracy to lay claim to nearly $7 million of American taxpayer funding,” House Appropriations ranking member Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn., said in a statement. She said that amount is “nearly twice the annual salaries and expenses budget of the White House.”

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Butter Mybuns's avatar

A DOGE budget fascinates me. Much of the news around this has been that congress holds the purse strings. If DOGE was created and budgeted, how does it grow with out congress?

It feels like this is more chaos create by the press, than what is actually occurring in Washington.

Are Musk and crew employees or not? Simple question, simple answer, but in most coverage is so complicated and scary.

This may make sense in the blue blue sky, but facts need foundation here on earth.

Alas, its all pointless. You have your team, they have theirs. The purpose of the press is to ensure you never agree with them.

Welcome to the free world.

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SPW's avatar

No one has been paying any attention here. The House of Representatives supposedly has the power of the purse but this misguided House can hardly decide what day it is much less settle down to even discuss anything like a budget. This president wants “one big, beautiful bill” but the Senate has already said that’s a non starter. There’s talk about getting there via reconciliation but that is an involved process that will require Democrats votes to carry off which isn’t too likely. As it is, the continuing resolution will run out March 14. Speaker Johnson isn’t Nancy Pelosi. He’s too busy monitoring his phone to make sure his son isn’t reading porn.

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Darrell's avatar

“House Appropriations ranking member Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn., said in a statement.“

That is a fact. It is not made up by media.

You said: “If DOGE was created and budgeted, how does it grow with out congress?”

That is there overarching point - that our constitutional guarantees of three equal branches of government no longer exists. That is the definition of a constitutional crisis. But you believe what you want since, for now, it is a free country, at least for some.

With an anonymous screen name you could be musk, making up chaos here. What do we know???

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Butter Mybuns's avatar

I'm not Musk, if I was I'd be wasting my time on a computer games or posting on X.

Try to stick to facts.

Find the truth.

That's all I advocate.

The press is supposed to help us find that truth, not sensationalize and divide.

Here's a link to NPR explaining how DOGE is structured.

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/29/nx-s1-5270893/doge-united-states-digital-service-elon-musk-usds-trump-white-house-eop-omb

Try not get distracted by their other politics links.

For a giggle, while there, find the article explaining why HeWhoShallNotBeNamed is wrong in saying those astronauts are "stranded". Then take note of the previous NPR articles embedded about those "stranded" astronauts.

Its a small example of medias leaning and rigid adherence to villainizing whatever HWSNBN says or does.

I don't like the guy either, but they are trying to solve long standing problems that congress would not address. A congress of Republicans and Democrats. Both have been complicit in the malignant growth or pork generated programs and this debt for decades.

That brings us back to term limits and/or voting out the incumbent until we get them.

Do your part in the next election. I will.

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SPW's avatar

Thank you Darrell.

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Dan's avatar

Here's my first post: "Bill, wish you were half as alarmist about millions of illegals crossing the border during the Biden administration as you seem to be about DOGE." Your responding post mentions skin color in the second paragraph:

"I don’t think any of the “illegals crossing the border” have unfettered access to the national checkbook, our computerized payment systems or our personal information, not to mention highly classified systems.

“Republicans, who strenuously protested when a Black guy they claimed was born in Africa was spending their tax dollars, are strangely silent now that a white guy who was definitely born in Africa is doing it.”

Now, tell me again, who mentions race? And before you say that mentioning "illegals" is rascist, I'll let you know ahead of time I would have the same opposition to white people from, say, Scandinavia crossing the border illegally, especially in the millions.

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Joe McGraw's avatar

Dan, you conflated the two unrelated issues in your initial post?

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Darrell's avatar

Snap!!!

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dj l's avatar
Feb 7Edited

I've noticed at times the pool chair issue - I'm glad I'm not a pool/sun worshipper so not playing the game. When w/ grandkids, they hop on/hop off so frequently, just a few chairs work for all 6.

I signed up for the newsletter from the link about AI. I'm always interested in more. I'm in a book club & just hosted a month - there are enough of us we host less than once a yr; I always select a scifi. I've been a scifi fan since I was in middle school (called Jr High back in my day. I did Asimov's "I, Robot" - not many are scifi fans, but the discussion hooked 'em, 'cause even tho written in the 1940's so many issues significant today, esp w/ AI.

When current husband & I met we began answering all kinds of questions. Learned a lot about each other. For Christmas this yr he bought me another book of questions, all different from those previously. We play pool almost every afternoon & before beginning, we flip to a page to answer a question. Many pertain to longevity. Some are morbid, imo - asking if you'd do something awful in order to live 1000 yrs or to live forever... others aren't morbid, but 'questionable'... eta: neither of us have chosen to do anything to live longer.

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Melissa's avatar

I don’t know why anyone would want to live forever, I find that a lot more depressing than the thought of eventually dying. Our bodies are not designed to be everlasting.

And people who move to Canada need to stop comparing it to where they came from. You left your former home behind for a reason, so embrace Canada for all it has to offer. And yes, things are more expensive here for several reasons. One is the weaker dollar, another is having to print bilingual labels on everything, which also leads to a lesser variety of products. Sometimes you need to figure out the exchange rate and you will realize it’s not that much more, though.

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SPW's avatar

I loved everything about Canada when my husband and I traveled all around it. He used to live in Ontario with his first wife and sons when he was playing for the Hamilton Tigercats back in the day so he and I visited often much later;

west coast to east coast, even Quebec and the Atlantic Provinces. Really fell in love with BC and some of the smaller towns there.

As for living longer, what is it with men and this fascination? Like Ted Williams freezing his head and body separately for future joining when science progresses to the point where head and body can be joined successfully. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ted-williams-frozen-in-two-pieces/

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Butter Mybuns's avatar

It is interesting that men seem to be more focused on extending life, while women more on remaining youthful. Maybe because men tend to die earlier? Maybe because men become more philosophical as we age? Women seeking to remain youthful is easier to understand and certainly has a cultural influence.

Who wants to live for ever? A true AI

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Butter Mybuns's avatar

For anyone considering a move to Canada, you should look across your closest border first. Your Shangri-La may be a few hundreds miles away in these United States.

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Darrell's avatar

That’s clearly not why they are moving…

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Butter Mybuns's avatar

They should move then. They have lost the spirit that founded this country.

It's "We The People", not "Our Representatives", not "Our Party" of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

You have made clear through many comments that you are a Democrat first. That's a choice of constant division.

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dj l's avatar

I took a tour in China a few years ago. Our tour guide was the most educated in all languages and historical facts. He had been doing tour guides for I don’t know like 30+ years. And he was the first to tell you if he screwed up, there were thousands and thousands of people to take his place Just as one example he showed us the daily news and he showed Page one and said this is China saying how wonderful China is. He flipped to page 2 and said this is China saying how awful the US is. And then he went on and on and on and he was totally upfront about how Awful China and the propaganda was.

So my son was married to a Chinese woman. Her parents immigrated to the US and I asked him about that and what he thought. He said very directly that that was all well and good for them, but what would happen if everyone who opposed the Chinese government left? I relate this to all the immigrants coming to the US. Perhaps they should stay in their country and fight for their country.

I could tell you so many more stories of what he said and did. He was more educated than anyone posting on this site. I can guarantee that.

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dj l's avatar

You read Darrell perfectly

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Darrell's avatar

There was a thing called the tea party where they protested taxation. Without representation. Representation is how we the people works. Not much justice, domestic tranquility, or general welfare out there now. I am an American first and have voted both ways over the years. How about you, musk?

Bless your heart…

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dj l's avatar
Feb 7Edited

Oh Canadian’s - eta - I don’t live in Tn

Well don’t speak English in Quebec …. Although when I was there several years ago the majority were actually quite polite especially when I made attempts at French

But from TN: A member of a neo-Nazi hate group has been arrested — again. Police arrested the same man in Nashville on assault charges last summer. A Davidson County Grand Jury has indicted the 29-year-old Canadian, Ryan Scott McCann, on charges of civil rights intimidation and assault. That’s based on an investigation into an altercation between McCann and a 20-year old Jewish man from Clarksville. McCann had been on an ankle monitor and prohibited from leaving Davidson County as a condition of his bond. He was taken back into custody Wednesday

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