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george taylor's avatar

Mr. Murphy, IMHO the deadliest attack on children in this country is when the child is murdered before being born. I say this because I accept that the child is a child at conception. You may of course not agree and am sure myriads of your readers do not agree with this position. However, when I read there is a movement to include murdering the child after being born, I must contend the child is a child before as well as after being born. What is next? Murdering the older folks? We are all praying for the families involved and we do not blame the instrument used, nor the NRA.

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Carry's avatar

This type of argument - where you deflect from the problem at hand (people murdering children with guna) by ignoring the problem and trying to shift the argument to a different topic (abortion) - is a common logical fallacy called a red herring.

It falls apart when we acknowledge a fundamental fact: There is no amount of anti-abortion advocacy that will solve gun violence.

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Darrell's avatar

Thank you for so eloquently responding. You saved me the trouble and I doubt I would have been as kind. Constant deflection is wearying.

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Carry's avatar

Thank you. Civil disagreement is hard when emotions are high and people are feeling tender. (Next time you are tempted to fire off something, remember an ad hominem attack is no better an argument than a red herring!)

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Stan Kappiris's avatar

Give it a rest, George. ThereтАЩs all kinds of inhumanity in this world. WeтАЩre not the only culture that has instances of inhumanity. We just like to make laws that control womenтАЩs bodies in the name of what?

Religion, controlтАжwhat?

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