Interesting story. Sounds like you definitely dodged a bullet!. good for you. Never heard of the word Jobfished but did read an article in Vanity Fair (I believe last year) that there was something similar (I cannot for the life of me remember the back story..lol frustrating) where these 2 people - husband and wife - had this company they tried to scale and hired all these people who quit their current jobs and moved elsewhere (different states) only to discover that it was all a scam and there was no job or the money they reported they had. I am always amazed (not in a good way) the degree to which people will upend another's life in such an egregious way - with no regard for others. Says a lot about that person.
I think there’s an important difference that is being overlooked. My understanding of “Fake It Till You Make It” is a mantra to help people with fear, low self esteem and any other issue preventing them from pursuing/achieving their goals. This article describes a con which involves someone knowingly deceiving others to achieve gains for themselves. Actions such as “stealing” pictures and creating false ID’s have less to do with “faking” it and more to do with breaking the law.
The harrowing thought here is that the next Bernie Madoff is waiting in the wings as we speak. The height (or depth) of narcissistic personality is still prevalent in society today. Sometimes the best resource we have to avoid this type of disaster is our gut.
If it’s too good to be true, it probably is. People believe what they want to believe. Just look at how people fall for Qanon, Fox News and other extremist “news” sources. That’s how FB survives.
Nothing is sacred anymore. It’s an exhausting way of life our meta culture has forced upon us (ie, we’ve foisted ourselves on our own petards). Facebook, Instagrams, and the like have set us up with our own blessing to want to believe almost anything. We need to detox. Question is, do we want to? Can we?
Good points Kate and everyone. I’ll just throw in “Buyer beware”. If it looks(almost)too good to be true, check, check and check again. Ask for their references maybe? Turn the tables.
Apr 4, 2022·edited Apr 4, 2022Liked by Bill Murphy Jr.
Kate, sorry to be off subject, but my wife just had a bad stroke last weekend. I know you have had medical issues and wondered if you had advice, she is pretty much incapacitated and we have kept are credit accounts sperate, she has a lot of unsecured debt from trying to raise our two adopted children, my problem is not having enough income to cover both of our debts? I wondered if you had any insight on this subject.
From 7 Other Things.... "... due to high gas prices caused by Russia’s war in Ukraine". Seriously? Let's give credit where credit is due. Gas prices were rising long before Russia invaded due to policies enacted day one of the Biden administration.
When Phineas Taylor Barnum said "there's a sucker born every minute and two to take his money" he may not have had verifiable data to back up that claim, but he did know that some are more susceptible to con artists than others. While the con artist may not have a deep understanding of how the brain works, they certainly know that anyone who takes their bait and then swallows it is likely to be netted and landed. Universally, we believe what we choose to believe, often despite compelling evidence to the contrary. Ironically, evidence that contradicts a belief may serve to reinforce it, so strong is the mind's desire to make reality conform with belief. Con is short for confidence, and the con artist is masterful at gaining trust and overcoming the caution that "what sounds too good to be true usually is." The Buddha taught that humans create suffering through greed, anger and ignorance. One need not embrace Buddhism to understand that all three are effectively weaponized by con artists. And while we generally think of the con artist as someone who steals money from us, an advanced form of this artistry is practiced by some political and religious leaders. Seeing through cons requires a mindset of discernment. To quote Wikipedia, it involves "taking time in making decisions, using both the head and heart, and assessing important values involved in the situation." Missing from the Wiki article is an essential element, suspending judgment. Judgment, in this context, is the primitive brain's survival instinct: "is it good, or is it bad?" The practice of discernment relies on being aware of such labeling by the primitive brain while not being conned by it. Most of our responses are influenced, if not entirely controlled, by the good-or-bad form of decision-making reinforced by neural pathways established in childhood. Being able to move from judgment to discernment quite literally requires establishing new neural pathways. Because rewiring the way our brain works is not something that can be accomplished overnight, taking time in making decisions protects us from being unreasonably or uncontrollably subjected to the influence of the primitive brain. The work of Shirzad Chamine can provide additional insight into this process.
Yeah! "Russia denies it all" (the massacres). Could Ukrainian troops or "radicals" have massacred all those people while Russian troops occupied and controlled those cities? Bullsh-t!
Main story: It's frightening and deeply disturbing that frauds like Madbird can get away with their chicanery. Anyone punished for their crooked efforts?
Interesting story. Sounds like you definitely dodged a bullet!. good for you. Never heard of the word Jobfished but did read an article in Vanity Fair (I believe last year) that there was something similar (I cannot for the life of me remember the back story..lol frustrating) where these 2 people - husband and wife - had this company they tried to scale and hired all these people who quit their current jobs and moved elsewhere (different states) only to discover that it was all a scam and there was no job or the money they reported they had. I am always amazed (not in a good way) the degree to which people will upend another's life in such an egregious way - with no regard for others. Says a lot about that person.
I think there’s an important difference that is being overlooked. My understanding of “Fake It Till You Make It” is a mantra to help people with fear, low self esteem and any other issue preventing them from pursuing/achieving their goals. This article describes a con which involves someone knowingly deceiving others to achieve gains for themselves. Actions such as “stealing” pictures and creating false ID’s have less to do with “faking” it and more to do with breaking the law.
The harrowing thought here is that the next Bernie Madoff is waiting in the wings as we speak. The height (or depth) of narcissistic personality is still prevalent in society today. Sometimes the best resource we have to avoid this type of disaster is our gut.
If it’s too good to be true, it probably is. People believe what they want to believe. Just look at how people fall for Qanon, Fox News and other extremist “news” sources. That’s how FB survives.
Nothing is sacred anymore. It’s an exhausting way of life our meta culture has forced upon us (ie, we’ve foisted ourselves on our own petards). Facebook, Instagrams, and the like have set us up with our own blessing to want to believe almost anything. We need to detox. Question is, do we want to? Can we?
Good points Kate and everyone. I’ll just throw in “Buyer beware”. If it looks(almost)too good to be true, check, check and check again. Ask for their references maybe? Turn the tables.
GO HEELS!!!
Why attribute higher gas prices to Russia when they were up 70% from last year long before the Ukraine invasion?
Kate, sorry to be off subject, but my wife just had a bad stroke last weekend. I know you have had medical issues and wondered if you had advice, she is pretty much incapacitated and we have kept are credit accounts sperate, she has a lot of unsecured debt from trying to raise our two adopted children, my problem is not having enough income to cover both of our debts? I wondered if you had any insight on this subject.
From 7 Other Things.... "... due to high gas prices caused by Russia’s war in Ukraine". Seriously? Let's give credit where credit is due. Gas prices were rising long before Russia invaded due to policies enacted day one of the Biden administration.
When Phineas Taylor Barnum said "there's a sucker born every minute and two to take his money" he may not have had verifiable data to back up that claim, but he did know that some are more susceptible to con artists than others. While the con artist may not have a deep understanding of how the brain works, they certainly know that anyone who takes their bait and then swallows it is likely to be netted and landed. Universally, we believe what we choose to believe, often despite compelling evidence to the contrary. Ironically, evidence that contradicts a belief may serve to reinforce it, so strong is the mind's desire to make reality conform with belief. Con is short for confidence, and the con artist is masterful at gaining trust and overcoming the caution that "what sounds too good to be true usually is." The Buddha taught that humans create suffering through greed, anger and ignorance. One need not embrace Buddhism to understand that all three are effectively weaponized by con artists. And while we generally think of the con artist as someone who steals money from us, an advanced form of this artistry is practiced by some political and religious leaders. Seeing through cons requires a mindset of discernment. To quote Wikipedia, it involves "taking time in making decisions, using both the head and heart, and assessing important values involved in the situation." Missing from the Wiki article is an essential element, suspending judgment. Judgment, in this context, is the primitive brain's survival instinct: "is it good, or is it bad?" The practice of discernment relies on being aware of such labeling by the primitive brain while not being conned by it. Most of our responses are influenced, if not entirely controlled, by the good-or-bad form of decision-making reinforced by neural pathways established in childhood. Being able to move from judgment to discernment quite literally requires establishing new neural pathways. Because rewiring the way our brain works is not something that can be accomplished overnight, taking time in making decisions protects us from being unreasonably or uncontrollably subjected to the influence of the primitive brain. The work of Shirzad Chamine can provide additional insight into this process.
Thank you Kate, I know you have your fair share of medical issues and appreciate the support and advice, again thank you so much!
Yeah! "Russia denies it all" (the massacres). Could Ukrainian troops or "radicals" have massacred all those people while Russian troops occupied and controlled those cities? Bullsh-t!
Main story: It's frightening and deeply disturbing that frauds like Madbird can get away with their chicanery. Anyone punished for their crooked efforts?