As someone who has been a teacher since 1974, I have seen the Great Resignation affect teachers more so regardless of location. The challenge of remote instruction coupled with personal considerations has led to many educators feeling overwhelmed and done. Sadly, we are facing a teacher crisis and will do so for many years to come since few younger people want to work for less while the demands of administration and parents continue to escalate.
Interesting! I love reading stuff like this because numbers don't lie and they really 'tell the tale.' I found another study - conducted by one of the major moving companies last year (?) but cannot remember which company - which collected data about who was moving where during the pandemic. I might look that up again. Its so interesting to read this type of information. I live in Jersey City NJ and don't know anyone who has resigned but I do work with a lot of unhappy people (who work for big companies) and a few of them have resigned (NYC) or have stayed with the company and moved elsewhere.
I don't think people in higher-cost states have fewer opportunities. People with specialized skills are in high demand and these locations tend to have many companies competing for them. The companies know they have to take care of their employees, or they'll walk.
In the lower-cost states, many people who are not in professional jobs are switching to get a wage increase. For many people in these jobs, it's about survival rather than job satisfaction.
It would be important to know the industries that have a higher share of the resignation. Perhaps those living in higher resignation States have a higher share of jobs affected by the Great Resignation - I would think Alaska employs a lot of folks in the retail/hospitality industry as a percent of their population - an industry atop the Great Resignation heap.
Where I live almost everyone has a second gig. During covid, we would let others know what else we were doing. One neighbor makes beautiful tie-dye clothes, another is dog sitting, another makes winter hats, another fixes computers. So much talent! I spent my time taking classes to be better at my trade. Where do I live? New York State.
On another note, I agree that Chick-fil-A is a nuisance. We now have two in our city and the traffic is horrible. Everyday but Sunday, it takes up to 35 minutes to travel 2 miles to get near one, and it’s clear sailing once you pass it. We’re now widening the road ($$$$$$) leading up to it in order to ease the bottleneck. Banning its drive-thru is a bit creative, but I only see it antagonizing the devotees. In our case, building an access road around the other businesses just for Chick-Fil-A would seem more practical.
Seems like getting another Chick-fil-A or two might be a better idea and maybe pick a better spot for the new ones maybe. Just a thought…
They are all over Georgia and the only one I ever saw with traffic issues was the original Dwarf House. But those were only during lunch and, heck, it’s the original.
It is easy to craft different perspectives and stories based on percentages and statistics. Marketers and politicians are masters of this craft.
While you can posit a fair amount of difference between 2 and 4% there isn’t a material difference between 96 and 98%. Moreover, using state by state comparisons creates an arbitrary basis for comparison.
With the exception of Alaska - which is an anomaly given the remote location along with the influences of weather and extended days/nights - the remaining top 10 are generally poorer areas in the aggregate compared to the bottom 10. Likewise, the bottom cohort has higher costs of living, transportation costs, and longer commutes, not to mention greater competition for small businesses.
It would be interesting to compare blue vs. red states or divide the country by southeast, northeast, Midwest and west and see how that shakes out, or even the preponderance of dominant industry and job types and compensation levels. And let’s not forget age demographics; does age skew higher in the top 10 cohort?
Something that happens 2% of the time can be markedly significant in some cases and not others. For example, you sure don’t want OB/GYNs to drop babies any percent of the time but flights being late only 4% of the time is acceptable. Moreover, a 2% vs. 4% difference in late flight times would elicit a “so what” reaction from most.
To circle back, I personally don’t see much statistical significance in comparisons by state.
Here I Durango, CO there is little resignation. BUT.... significant effects are being felt as many who have or are resigning have moved here. We are seeing a huge influx of "out-of-staters".
I'm not an actuary but I work for an insurance company so I'm wondering are the %s figured on a per capita basis or just plain %s? It seems to me that 1.8% of New York workers equals a lot more people than 3.98% of Alaskan workers just based on pure population. Many restaurants in Cincinnati are closing or restricting hours based on staff shortages. Positions at my company go unfilled for months or more due to lack of applicants.
Honestly this validates what I've been feeling all along. I know no one who has resigned from their jobs over the past 2 years, except to retire. And that number is 2.
I’m the rare resigner from an edge suburb of Seattle, where I’m the only one I know to participate in the Great Resignation. And I’d give myself an asterisk: I was primed to change careers anyway, so it didn’t take much of a nudge to get me to leave the bullshit machine.
My thoughts? Those within the "red" states have a much greater opportunity to find another job, available at the ready whenever the 'resignee' makes a decision to return to another job. Those within "blue" states may not have as much of an opportunity. That's my SWAG.
What are the base rates of resignation, i.e., the rates of resignation in years prior to Covid? Drawing a meaningful conclusion without the base rates is not possible.
I think about this 'great resignation' as more of an acceleration of the normal churn. People are retiring a bit early, and that in turn creates openings and more people leaving to avail themselves of better opportunities. In that context, it makes sense that NYS (where I live) has low resignation numbers. Here, there is a prevailing opinion that quality jobs are difficult to come by, so unless you're moving out of state, you wouldn't just leave your job without an offer in hand.
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As someone who has been a teacher since 1974, I have seen the Great Resignation affect teachers more so regardless of location. The challenge of remote instruction coupled with personal considerations has led to many educators feeling overwhelmed and done. Sadly, we are facing a teacher crisis and will do so for many years to come since few younger people want to work for less while the demands of administration and parents continue to escalate.
Interesting! I love reading stuff like this because numbers don't lie and they really 'tell the tale.' I found another study - conducted by one of the major moving companies last year (?) but cannot remember which company - which collected data about who was moving where during the pandemic. I might look that up again. Its so interesting to read this type of information. I live in Jersey City NJ and don't know anyone who has resigned but I do work with a lot of unhappy people (who work for big companies) and a few of them have resigned (NYC) or have stayed with the company and moved elsewhere.
I don't think people in higher-cost states have fewer opportunities. People with specialized skills are in high demand and these locations tend to have many companies competing for them. The companies know they have to take care of their employees, or they'll walk.
In the lower-cost states, many people who are not in professional jobs are switching to get a wage increase. For many people in these jobs, it's about survival rather than job satisfaction.
It would be important to know the industries that have a higher share of the resignation. Perhaps those living in higher resignation States have a higher share of jobs affected by the Great Resignation - I would think Alaska employs a lot of folks in the retail/hospitality industry as a percent of their population - an industry atop the Great Resignation heap.
Where I live almost everyone has a second gig. During covid, we would let others know what else we were doing. One neighbor makes beautiful tie-dye clothes, another is dog sitting, another makes winter hats, another fixes computers. So much talent! I spent my time taking classes to be better at my trade. Where do I live? New York State.
On another note, I agree that Chick-fil-A is a nuisance. We now have two in our city and the traffic is horrible. Everyday but Sunday, it takes up to 35 minutes to travel 2 miles to get near one, and it’s clear sailing once you pass it. We’re now widening the road ($$$$$$) leading up to it in order to ease the bottleneck. Banning its drive-thru is a bit creative, but I only see it antagonizing the devotees. In our case, building an access road around the other businesses just for Chick-Fil-A would seem more practical.
Seems like getting another Chick-fil-A or two might be a better idea and maybe pick a better spot for the new ones maybe. Just a thought…
They are all over Georgia and the only one I ever saw with traffic issues was the original Dwarf House. But those were only during lunch and, heck, it’s the original.
No surprise to me that blue states have fewer resignations. They have fewer jobs available. But hey, sometimes you get what you ask for.
It is easy to craft different perspectives and stories based on percentages and statistics. Marketers and politicians are masters of this craft.
While you can posit a fair amount of difference between 2 and 4% there isn’t a material difference between 96 and 98%. Moreover, using state by state comparisons creates an arbitrary basis for comparison.
With the exception of Alaska - which is an anomaly given the remote location along with the influences of weather and extended days/nights - the remaining top 10 are generally poorer areas in the aggregate compared to the bottom 10. Likewise, the bottom cohort has higher costs of living, transportation costs, and longer commutes, not to mention greater competition for small businesses.
It would be interesting to compare blue vs. red states or divide the country by southeast, northeast, Midwest and west and see how that shakes out, or even the preponderance of dominant industry and job types and compensation levels. And let’s not forget age demographics; does age skew higher in the top 10 cohort?
Something that happens 2% of the time can be markedly significant in some cases and not others. For example, you sure don’t want OB/GYNs to drop babies any percent of the time but flights being late only 4% of the time is acceptable. Moreover, a 2% vs. 4% difference in late flight times would elicit a “so what” reaction from most.
To circle back, I personally don’t see much statistical significance in comparisons by state.
Here I Durango, CO there is little resignation. BUT.... significant effects are being felt as many who have or are resigning have moved here. We are seeing a huge influx of "out-of-staters".
I'm not an actuary but I work for an insurance company so I'm wondering are the %s figured on a per capita basis or just plain %s? It seems to me that 1.8% of New York workers equals a lot more people than 3.98% of Alaskan workers just based on pure population. Many restaurants in Cincinnati are closing or restricting hours based on staff shortages. Positions at my company go unfilled for months or more due to lack of applicants.
Honestly this validates what I've been feeling all along. I know no one who has resigned from their jobs over the past 2 years, except to retire. And that number is 2.
I’m the rare resigner from an edge suburb of Seattle, where I’m the only one I know to participate in the Great Resignation. And I’d give myself an asterisk: I was primed to change careers anyway, so it didn’t take much of a nudge to get me to leave the bullshit machine.
My thoughts? Those within the "red" states have a much greater opportunity to find another job, available at the ready whenever the 'resignee' makes a decision to return to another job. Those within "blue" states may not have as much of an opportunity. That's my SWAG.
What are the base rates of resignation, i.e., the rates of resignation in years prior to Covid? Drawing a meaningful conclusion without the base rates is not possible.
I think about this 'great resignation' as more of an acceleration of the normal churn. People are retiring a bit early, and that in turn creates openings and more people leaving to avail themselves of better opportunities. In that context, it makes sense that NYS (where I live) has low resignation numbers. Here, there is a prevailing opinion that quality jobs are difficult to come by, so unless you're moving out of state, you wouldn't just leave your job without an offer in hand.