Yes! I am a retired orchestral musician. Colleagues found one guest conductor unsympathetic. I realized that, when on stage, he didn't use his glasses and was squinting! Unfortunately for the conductor, I, a tutti violist, didn't have enough power to get a group of 110 other musicians to consider my observation!!!
However, it would be interesting to know what "Powerless people" think about things. We aren't all dumb, you know!!!
Yes, I do have RBF but I never knew its name or that others experienced it. I learned about it from colleagues who would ask why I was angry while working at my desk. I had to assure them that I was not angry, just concentrating. I did make a point of consciously putting a small smile on my face (being careful to not overdo it) whenever I stood up to move away from my desk. I have doing that for many years. Wish I knew about using my hands.
When I am intent on “paying attention“ I usually do put my hand under my chin. It’s more a natural thing for me. And I’ve learned to kind of bring the corners of my lips up when I’m around people.
A word of caution to strangers who feel compelled to just blurt out “hey there, smile“. Most of us have our heads in some other space and the thought of a stranger trying to get a perky smile out of me while I am pondering something would drive me to madness.
My friends can get away with it with me. But I won’t ever do that to anyone else.
I have that problem with my voice. It’s loud, even when I whisper (a perfect “stage whisper”). When I order something over the phone, I apologize for the strength of my voice explaining that I’m not yelling at them, is just my voice is loud. I can usually hear a sigh of relief. Yes, very embarrassing!!
I wonder how differing zoom backgrounds affect RBF. I’m equating zoom backgrounds with using your hands given the small from of a zoom video rectangle.
Okay, today's read got me rolling. First, the RBF thing is hilarious to me because I have been accused of looking like I'm about to bite someone's head off when I was just serious. Also, I have been told to wipe the smile off my face for always smiling. Middle ground for me could be the RBF but it's hardly my intent, LOL. Second, WTH is up with the Space Force song? I couldn't stop laughing at the comments people were tweeting about the song.
I personally perpetually smile a lot - partly because I've been complimented on it since highschool - and partly because I too, have a RBF. I wonder when (if) I'll be letting it go.
With the pandemic I've learned to not waste my life feeling ashamed of my arms - finally two years ago allowing myself to wear short sleeves.
Same with wearing shorts. I'm in early fifties and finding it hadn't ever mattered anyhow.
• Happiest state in America: Hawaii. 𝘽𝙪𝙩 𝙣𝙪𝙢𝙗𝙚𝙧-5? 𝙉𝙚𝙬 𝙅𝙚𝙧𝙨𝙚𝙮!
This may have more to do with the recent legalization of Marijuana than New Jersians being genuinely happy. I've been here 25 years, I wouldn't describe it as a "happy" state. In fact, I've spent 25 years wondering how I got here.
I am amazed at how easily we accept something just by having "science says" or "data says" without ever actually stopping to think about it ourselves. It seems as if "science" is the new religion that everyone now bows down to, a mistake in my mind. The RBF can easily be an example. The study used software to interpret peoples emotions based on facial expression. I'm sorry, but I don't buy that a software program is a very good interpreter of facial expression. The software was developed by people who probably weren't "experts" at interpreting body language in the first place, and secondly, probably almost everyone can think of times when they have totally misinterpreted body language. Yet, here we are assuming that the software is accurate. I question the accuracy.
It is very easy to misinterpret what someone's body language is saying, even for those who work with it every day, and make decisions based on that interpretation, instead of asking exactly what the person is feeling, expressing or trying to express in order to avoid the confusion and poor communication that can come from the misinterpretation.
I think we are far too easily influenced by "science" and "data" instead of thinking for ourselves. Any time is see an article that says "science says", the first question I ask is: whose science and what were the parameters of the "science"? Same question goes for any study I read that quotes statistics and science; who paid for the study, why was the study done, and were the statistics appropriate for the parameters of the study. All too often, I find huge holes in the statistics used as well as the parameters of the study.
Just my own thoughts. Maybe we need to stop relying on "science" or software to interpret things for us and think and make our own decisions. If we're not sure of something, ask, a great way to avoid confusion and potential conflict.
Do I buy the RBF issue? Only slightly. If I think someone is angry about something, I ask how they are feeling and let them supply the answer instead of me supplying an easy answer for them to use. It can be very revealing how often this opens a whole different line of discussion. I guess I don't want a software program misinterpreting me, I see that too often with people, but at least I can discuss it with the person and clear up the misinterpretation, can't do that with software.
My daughter is an OR nurse, and during Covid while wearing N95 masks all day she was told she always looked mean or grumpy. (I'm not sure which term was used, but it surely meant RBF.)
She got Botox to erase the creases between her brows, and has been very pleased with the result.
It makes a real difference when the only part of the face you can see is above a mask!
Yes! I am a retired orchestral musician. Colleagues found one guest conductor unsympathetic. I realized that, when on stage, he didn't use his glasses and was squinting! Unfortunately for the conductor, I, a tutti violist, didn't have enough power to get a group of 110 other musicians to consider my observation!!!
However, it would be interesting to know what "Powerless people" think about things. We aren't all dumb, you know!!!
Some people naturally have a RBF. Some people are naturally a B. I don't care what you look like, I care what you do.
Yes, I do have RBF but I never knew its name or that others experienced it. I learned about it from colleagues who would ask why I was angry while working at my desk. I had to assure them that I was not angry, just concentrating. I did make a point of consciously putting a small smile on my face (being careful to not overdo it) whenever I stood up to move away from my desk. I have doing that for many years. Wish I knew about using my hands.
When I am intent on “paying attention“ I usually do put my hand under my chin. It’s more a natural thing for me. And I’ve learned to kind of bring the corners of my lips up when I’m around people.
A word of caution to strangers who feel compelled to just blurt out “hey there, smile“. Most of us have our heads in some other space and the thought of a stranger trying to get a perky smile out of me while I am pondering something would drive me to madness.
My friends can get away with it with me. But I won’t ever do that to anyone else.
I have that problem with my voice. It’s loud, even when I whisper (a perfect “stage whisper”). When I order something over the phone, I apologize for the strength of my voice explaining that I’m not yelling at them, is just my voice is loud. I can usually hear a sigh of relief. Yes, very embarrassing!!
I wonder how differing zoom backgrounds affect RBF. I’m equating zoom backgrounds with using your hands given the small from of a zoom video rectangle.
My DIL has RBF , (not resting, though)
I think Trump must have approved the Space Force song, sounds like a German battle hymn.
Upon hearing the U. S. Space Force official song, my brain immediately goes to Rick Moranis ordering “Ludicrous Speed”.
Thank you, brain, for making this connection for me today. You’ve done your best work before 7 AM. I give you the rest of the day off.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NAWL8ejf2nM
Okay, today's read got me rolling. First, the RBF thing is hilarious to me because I have been accused of looking like I'm about to bite someone's head off when I was just serious. Also, I have been told to wipe the smile off my face for always smiling. Middle ground for me could be the RBF but it's hardly my intent, LOL. Second, WTH is up with the Space Force song? I couldn't stop laughing at the comments people were tweeting about the song.
My cat has a RBF.
Christopher Guest, the world needs you to make a documentary about our newest military anthem .
I personally perpetually smile a lot - partly because I've been complimented on it since highschool - and partly because I too, have a RBF. I wonder when (if) I'll be letting it go.
With the pandemic I've learned to not waste my life feeling ashamed of my arms - finally two years ago allowing myself to wear short sleeves.
Same with wearing shorts. I'm in early fifties and finding it hadn't ever mattered anyhow.
• Happiest state in America: Hawaii. 𝘽𝙪𝙩 𝙣𝙪𝙢𝙗𝙚𝙧-5? 𝙉𝙚𝙬 𝙅𝙚𝙧𝙨𝙚𝙮!
This may have more to do with the recent legalization of Marijuana than New Jersians being genuinely happy. I've been here 25 years, I wouldn't describe it as a "happy" state. In fact, I've spent 25 years wondering how I got here.
I am amazed at how easily we accept something just by having "science says" or "data says" without ever actually stopping to think about it ourselves. It seems as if "science" is the new religion that everyone now bows down to, a mistake in my mind. The RBF can easily be an example. The study used software to interpret peoples emotions based on facial expression. I'm sorry, but I don't buy that a software program is a very good interpreter of facial expression. The software was developed by people who probably weren't "experts" at interpreting body language in the first place, and secondly, probably almost everyone can think of times when they have totally misinterpreted body language. Yet, here we are assuming that the software is accurate. I question the accuracy.
It is very easy to misinterpret what someone's body language is saying, even for those who work with it every day, and make decisions based on that interpretation, instead of asking exactly what the person is feeling, expressing or trying to express in order to avoid the confusion and poor communication that can come from the misinterpretation.
I think we are far too easily influenced by "science" and "data" instead of thinking for ourselves. Any time is see an article that says "science says", the first question I ask is: whose science and what were the parameters of the "science"? Same question goes for any study I read that quotes statistics and science; who paid for the study, why was the study done, and were the statistics appropriate for the parameters of the study. All too often, I find huge holes in the statistics used as well as the parameters of the study.
Just my own thoughts. Maybe we need to stop relying on "science" or software to interpret things for us and think and make our own decisions. If we're not sure of something, ask, a great way to avoid confusion and potential conflict.
Do I buy the RBF issue? Only slightly. If I think someone is angry about something, I ask how they are feeling and let them supply the answer instead of me supplying an easy answer for them to use. It can be very revealing how often this opens a whole different line of discussion. I guess I don't want a software program misinterpreting me, I see that too often with people, but at least I can discuss it with the person and clear up the misinterpretation, can't do that with software.
My daughter is an OR nurse, and during Covid while wearing N95 masks all day she was told she always looked mean or grumpy. (I'm not sure which term was used, but it surely meant RBF.)
She got Botox to erase the creases between her brows, and has been very pleased with the result.
It makes a real difference when the only part of the face you can see is above a mask!