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It's always been this way. I remember back in the mid-70s, my Dad (62) was told to retire.

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It's about time someone took these big corps to task on this.

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Boo on the Pringles "free" advertising! I admit I don't like Pringles, especially after reading the ingredients, but I hope scientific groups have better things to do than bow to corporate wishes. Perhaps a compromise could be reached and use "Pringles spider" as a common name???

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Pringles needs to be careful what it asks for. Some people might find it a bit creepy to bite into a Pringles chip and picturing a hairy spider. The Lays potato chip maker could find a way to profit from this.

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As I am becoming an old white lady, I read today's Understandably with interest.

In Canada, efforts are made for diversity for sure. However, I must say that I have been discriminated against for being, well, white, and for being a little older, at age 50 though I've never felt better in my life. Go figure, too, that my caring and happy nature rubs some people the wrong way.

I am a proud of French Canadian or more specifically Franco-Ontarian. Imagine my surprise while attending an event I was enjoying thoroughly being told on two occasions not to speak French there. Wow! I was flabbergasted. French is, after all, an official language in Canada along with English. A little background, I was actually answering someone who addressed me in French at the time in a private conversation that was overheard by bystanders. The worry was that some people thought we were speaking ill of others. I interjected that if I had something to say to someone, I would tell them in their own language. I did leave that event that evening very disappointed and jaded. That's my 2 cents. What are yours?

I will enjoy reading the comments here for sure.

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We all love to hear about diversity and affirmative action until it affects us. Kind of like let’s do away with fossil fuels.

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This has been going on for way too long. Diversity is good but not at the cost of good and loyal employees! Let’s face it, it’s happening in the interviewing process as well.

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So interesting your take on the AT&T “old white guy” case. Things seem to be changing for the better and I can imagine that it’s scary for many OWG who’s dominated everything for so long. So, discrimination was fine all of these years as longs as the OWGs were in charge, but now that the tides are turning, you will start to sue for alleged “reverse discrimination”? So win win either way right? Noted.

Well, as an old black lady, I’m so glad that my kids and grandkids may have

More opportunities in the future, than my generation. (Although, many OWG and gals are still fighting to stop this from happening). I get it, why give up power and privilege when it’s served you well for so long, so many generations.

But when God says it’s time for accountability and change, it will happen. And our trials and tribulations would not have been in vein.

See California Beach front Properly stolen by imminent domain story. Accountability is coming.

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Nothing like wading into a good controversy on a Monday morning. This is one of the taboo discussion items if you're an OWG. If you speak up against affirmative action, you're labeled as racist. If you remain silent, you will eventually be subjected to the results of these programs. I'm all for non-discrimination of any kind, however I don't agree with affirmative action quotas because someone falls into a "category". Whatever happened to hiring and retaining the best candidate? Equal is equal, right?

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I think I would hire a qualified individual regardless of color, age, etc, I think that is what it should be all about. Doesn't matter, the color, creed or whatever. I was a manager for a test team for a marketing company and I hired the people I thought would be best for the job. My team was the most diverse. I would never turn someone away because of their "self", but then again, I'm a future old white woman. I'm 58. On the flip side, I would never hire someone "because" of their 'self' either, if I didn't feel they were qualified.

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Old white guy:

Puh-leeze. Anybody want to bet against the fact AT&T hired new people because they are cheaper to employ until they build up some senority? Then watch how fast they get replaced.

I always find it "interesting", (Things that make me go "Hmm, this sounds shady af, methinks.") that when companies go through these " miracle" restructuring shams all of a sudden, gasp, we found all this money! Yay us! We know, we'll buy back our stock and give our CEO and his cronies a big, fat, overpriced raise! Yay us again! Aren't we smart? And look, like magic our stock price is up and we have new suckers, err, stockholders, lining up to buy our stock! Yay us! Again. Ain't America wonderful?

How come when all these "diversity" pushes get done, the CEO's and his golf buddies are still lily white?

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Elon and Twitter:

Since no one has made this point, let me be the first. When Elon wanted Twitter the bitcoin market was flying high. We all know Elon is huge into bitcoin, right? So what I'm wondering is how big a hit did Elon take since bitcoin has tanked faster than a disco revival?

Maybe our boy Elon is kinda/sorta short the dough to be able to do the deal? And given the ego involved here, it's not a great leap to think that Elon would glom on to any cheesy theory to be able to huff and puff his way out while saving face. Kind of like that other so-called, orange "Republican". Except Elon cashed out $8.5 BILLION bucks worth of Tesla stock while everybody was looking the other way. Never even affected the stock price, which it should have. Hmm...

So we have basically two broke " Republican" blowhards who are morally fine with taking money under false pretenses. Yup, sounds about right.

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I'm going to pitch a new Lays slogan:

"Bet you can eat more Lays, we don't have spiders as mascots!"

Yes? No?

Poo, back to the drawing board...

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OWG - if a move to reduce discrimination results in discrimination, it's not achieving the goal. Unless the goal is to hire cheaper staff, which is a terrible thing for all except the company. As someone who has and is experiencing ageism, which is not much compared to the racism some have experienced, all I can say is that it is not the way to run a company. I hope the guy wins his case but I doubt much will change.

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Just follow the money trail. It has been my observation (and experience) that large corporations will target older employees (white, male or not) because of their higher salaries. Terminating them saves the company money. (Or so they think.) Knowledge, wisdom and loyalty go with them, however. Sad.

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It will be interesting to see what the end of Roe v. Wade will do to the legal industry. With life now legally starting much earlier than it used to in many states, we can expect a tsunami of lawsuits from people claiming child support at inception, additional dependents on tax returns, etc, etc, etc…

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